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Ian Thurley's avatar

Did the killing of JFK or Martin Luther King change politics for the better? Will this latest murder make any difference? If you take a spiritual viewpoint then Charlie was always destined to die in this way - he chose his path through the soul contract he made with his guides and teachers before he incarnated and his purpose is now complete in this Earthly realm. However horrific the end to your physical incarnation, your soul cannot die, it moves on. His legacy will live on and may even be strengthened by this event. The 'left' is increasingly being exposed as the true Facists they proclaim others to be. Perhaps this will prove to be significant in halting the tyrrany being delivered by their hatred. The "Great Reset" may turn out to be something entirely different from that envisaged by the 'progressives'. Resorting to violence is usually a sign that the argument has been lost.

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Kat K's avatar

It does feel different, a shift in the air, maybe, some unspoken line crossed.

Charlie Kirk was doing was democracy demanded of him - he was going to places where his political opponents congregated and engaged in debate.

To be murdered ostensibly for saying things that someone doesn't agree with at a debate on a university campus... This a damning thing indeed for the yesteryear bastions of freedom of expression - universities. I understand why university students are so radicalised today, but this might just be the last nail in the coffin for society's wider acceptance of higher education as something worth pursuing.

I myself started to think, well, I might have 5 generations of university graduates in my family, but I would love for my child to go into a trade, and I will be damn proud if it happens.

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Rob's avatar

"At least, it has rocked the right people." Not sure what you mean by "right". It has rocked those with decency and humanity but it seems to have evoked glee and satisfaction from amongst those, mainly on the Left, who have no humanity.

We can but hope that the decent will learn how to deal with the depraved and immoral.

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Alex P-A's avatar

Beautifully said, Laura.

In contrast to the revolting "news report" (garbage) offered last night by the BBC's shamelessly partisan US correspondent, Sarah Smith.

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Gill's avatar
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I hate to be a doom monger but I very much doubt it will be a turning point. The people who are 'asleep' - the ones who lap up everything the BBC and other mainstream media say and for many of whom virtue signalling their tolerance is more important than protecting their own family - won't bat an eyelid. The description of him as an ally of Trump damns him to hell in their eyes anyway. If they are unswayed by something which could have directly affected them (all the myriad bombings and atrocities which any of us could have been caught up in, there but for the grace of God) then the murder of somebody who mainstream media are describing as polarising or provocative or akin to the KKK (yes GMB I'm talking to you) isn't going to change their minds.

The people who had the decent and proper response to this murder were already on board anyway.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

Don’t underestimate the power of God.

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John in the USA's avatar

Very sad news. I didn't agree with everything he espoused but was gladdened by his engagement with those who supported him and those that opposed him. I believe that the polarisation of the US political discourse is sad. It isn't helped by the likes of the mainstream, from FOX to the BBC, and some of the independent voices, both the leftist and the right-wing, who constantly fire bitter accusations at each other (I know some are true). It's too easy to do...and it's lazy.

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Annie G's avatar

No matter modern opinions, Tertullian said that the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the Church, and this has been seen throughout history. To quote Douglas Murray, its time for us all to be brave and stand up for what is right, what is true and what constitutes true freedom. Rest in peace, young man.

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Donna's avatar

Charlie Kirk’s murder will be a turning point. Prove me wrong!

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Neil Pryke's avatar

He isn't the first...and he won't be the last...look at all the other killings, and decide...

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harry brown's avatar

The left lose it because they have no answer, and so resort to violence!

Yesterday we lost a brother, and today the left started an movement not for them but for the right.

Young men, embolden by the spirit of Charlie's sacrifice standing up and speaking out against the nonsensical ideologies of the left and the woke.

This far and no more, a line In the sand is now drawn.

Drawn back to faith, Charlie spoke out of what an upright and responsible man looks like, and many young men looked up to him and the standards he brought, had he lived I'm sure in time he would of become president Kirk ( and his great great great grandson James T...) joking aside because in this dark day after we still need our sense of humour.

But he didn't and he hasnt, and so if your reading this, take on the mantle, raise your voice, start to talk, start to debate practice as it becomes easier once you've been at it a while.

And when your out there debating you'll hear yourself and realise, yer that what Charlie would of said and that how he would of said it!

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Roger's avatar

Sadly what sprang to my cynical and jaundiced mind was a near parallel from fairly recent history when a person on the right of politics, albeit the real extreme right, was killed by those on the left (communists); an event that contributed to the gathering momentum of Germany's militarisation and the rise of real Nazis.

The murder of Horst Wessel created a martyr for for the Nazi party but at least he had a catchy little song composed in his honour, as I said I have a very jaundiced mind but what actually bothers me about all of this is that the awful assassination of Charlie Kirk could act as a the catalyst for the instigation of a general right wing reaction to the humourless and disgusting actions of the creepy and dangerous acolytes of the left.

Maybe the tolerant right wing worm will turn with an unstoppable and somewhat Newtonian reaction to the left's excesses. I await with interest and conclude with contrasting quotes:

"The future belongs to those who refuse to stay silent". Charlie Kirk.

"Get rid of them all, cut all their frotes" Ricky Jones talking about those whose views do not align with his own.

As I said I am deeply jaundiced and only take solace in the joyful certainty of the complete elimination of hope exemplified in Lear.

I could carry on but I'm off for another whiskey.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

Charlie Kirk taught us that the ordinary is extraordinary now. Faith in God and sharing Jesus, marriage, forgiveness, grace, family, children, freedom of speech, religion and association- all that is extraordinary now. Look at the reaction of the legacy media and the left wing bloggers. They are just graceless and lacking in character.

I pray his death will not be in vain.

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