I totally agree with your views. I feel manners amongst our own people are worse but I think it is due to the breakdown of our society and tolerating people of a different culture whose population has grown to a level that is uncomfortable and affecting the daily life of people. Our Communities are changing and not for the better. It is a decline in the quality of life for everyone in the UK.
Hear, hear! I find the spitting in the street, one of the most revolting bits of diversity (and yes, I do know that my fellow natives have been known to indulge) but it's so much more prevalent nowadays and eeewwww!
In 'Super Starmer' world, these people supposedly integrate, are upstanding citizens and do good for the community!!! When he finally comes out of his dream world, there will not be a Britain left!!
In Cardiff there are schools where you only see mothers in the Burkha waiting at the gate and there are not any white children!! I would be called racist for saying that but it is the truth!!
There are a number of schools here where you cannot see a white child at all. Going into the shopping centre you get groups of women in Burkha's it is intimidating, it is also frightening, if someone really wanted to do something seriously dangerous that is the perfect disguise to hide things under!
Time the Burka was banned!! This would allow integration and if the people are not happy they can move to a country where it is normal attire and then they will be happy as well!
If we really want to keep anything at all of the British way of life things have to change and 'Super Starmer' and his group of idiots need to go!
If you look up how many Mosques there are in this country it is frightening!! Cardiff alone has a ridiculous number!! We are a Christian country!!! Someone remind our government and council planning of that fact! We are not a Muslim country (yet anyway!!).
I’m alarmed to read that mothers are collecting their children from school wearing burkas. What if the person the child goes off with turns out to be someone else? I’m very surprised that schools would allow it.
The problem is they are all wearing them and they cannot confront them even if they wanted to! Remember a lot of the teachers/heads are white and not Muslim so will be accused of racism at best or a lot worse!.
I am just surprised we have not done what France did and ban Burka, Hijab and all of the rest. We have had terrorism (OK not recently) we have no idea who is under these items or if they have bombs or weapons! We have been taken over here and sleepwalked our way into it by trying to be kind!
How do you get integration if you have people going around dressed head to toe in black! They even drive complete with full headdress!! Surely that is against the highway code? We are so full of not offending them or not upsetting them we are a joke. When in Rome do as the Romans do!! If they are not happy with our rules go somewhere that they will be happy!!
You have to see six women altogether dressed head to toe in black and all you can see is the eyes, believe me you feel intimidated!! That is normal here!!
We then have the other side of it all where we are forced to walk in the road as they have the right to the whole pavement and you have to get off of it for them!!
It is the speed that it has all happened in that is frightening
I totally agree with you. My parents emigrated from India in the 1940's. I am thus the first generation born here (in the 1950's). As intelligent immigrants, my parents first thought was to try an integrate. Only English was allowed to be spoken in our house. I went to English C of E schools and the teachers were specifically told that I was to attend all religious classes. I am totally integrated and cannot understand why others would not. I support England at cricket, but visit India and my relatives quite often. The two are not mutually exclusive! I went to live in Sweden for 1 year and immersed myself in their culture. What a waste if I had not! Diversity is destroying England - Integration is what is required.
This describes exactly how I feel. Especially when you said you feel like you’ve been dropped into a third world country but can’t fly home. The feeling of being trapped is reminiscent of the Covid lockdowns.
Multiculturalism dilutes social norms and reduces any sense of 'we'. A home becomes a hotel and as in any hotel different nationalities and cultures ignore each other. Worse, the hotel management has failed to advise guests of any rules. The English invented politeness and were brought up to temper any selfishness with consideration for others. But as other cultures act indifferently to ours so some English are corrupted; they see no purpose to respecting the old rules which so many around them evidently do not. And so the public space degrades.
They should never have abandoned queuing for the bus in an orderly fashion. In a way I suppose that was bowing to the inevitable but the fact that you could remonstrate with somebody who tried to push in was a useful reminder of social norms which might give them pause in other situations. Letting passengers off the train first still seems to be a thing, just about.
The UK is in deep self imposed shit that’s simply incomprehensible from the other side of the pond. I do understand that the exact same view of the US is probably felt by those overseas. What I simply don’t understand is the lack of freedom of speech, the kowtowing to Muslim immigrants and especially the seeming tolerance of the rape of your daughters. What the fuck has happened to the country of Shakespeare and Churchill? When will you show some pride in your long heritage?
You appear to be ignorant of the fact that the prior U.S. administration (also Obama who started all this) ushered into our beautiful country 20 million illegal, uneducated, mostly military aged men from every third world country worldwide. The Muslim/Islamists openly declare they are taking over our country, while breeding like rabbits) and will kill those of us who don’t convert to Islam. The uncivilized low IQ useless are polluting and littering while living in hotels and collecting our money and drivers licenses … killing citizens w/ their incompetence in everything they attempt. The rest are gang members, cartel members, traffickers, murderers, rapists and thieves. Then we have the Blue States and cities that have welcomed in the homeless who have destroyed everything in their path living like scum of the early centuries.They are sub-human addicts, criminals, and mentally ill. The U.S. is as close to Third World as the other Western countries. Trump is attempting to turn back the tide, but it would take years to undo what has been deliberately perpetrated upon this once great country that NEVER needed multi-culturalism. What a joke! The first immigrants brought talents, skills, motivation, incentive with them to advance our country. These mooches, parasitic, literal morons are here to pillage, murder, and ruin.
Humour is to be gleaned from even the worst of circumstances, you know the sort of thing:
Medical orderly to squady: "Sorry mate, you've lost your leg".
Squady to orderly: "No I ain't it's behind that rock over there".
Just not funny, I know and probly not true (wrong rock).
How about this then for a yarn of tolerance and understanding; it's absolutely true. I dun it and I am ashamed, Soo soo ashamed:
Shopping centre car park. Coke machine.
Five or six women (I assumed) all wearing burqas.
They had all bought cans of Coke.
One or two had half raised their face covering to sup the Western Capitalist Juice.
I was spotted, face coverings speedily back in place.
We stared at each other for a while, at least I think they were looking at me, couldn't tell.
It was during this odd hiatus that the inner little sod took over and I planned a cunning ploy
I walked off, feigning indifference thus putting everybody at their ease.
After twenty or thirty yards or so, giving all of the masked ones time to slake their thirst, I spun round to see the state of play.
Coughs and splutters all round at the hasty withdrawal of Coke tins from various visages followed by panicky replacement of face covers.
I walked away suitably amused but then, I am extraordinarily childish.
Footnote:
I think they were all females. Can't be sure though, after all that would not be unprecedented would it? Some few years ago a male terrorist wandered away from police custody dressed in a burqa.
By the way, I can only apologise belatedly for belching and bellowing in the theatre only you must understand I am a graduate of the Sir Les Paterson School of Charm and Deportment.
I speak as an immigrant. Apparently, according to my wife, I come from Mars. I got here on the good ship Venus.
Laura, unfortunately this is what we get when the cultures of the world are willingly imported into our country, not by us I may add but by a political elite (aka 'puppeticians') who have been 'hell bent' on making us 'multi-cultural'. I never voted or agreed to this, but it merrily continued to speeches that heralded it a positive for our nation. The acceleration happened during the Blair era (evil, warmongering WEF puppet that he is), whereby all and sundry were welcomed in. So here we are today, cultures that strictly do not like us or our culture, dictating their needs (aways over what we want or indeed have been used to for 100's years), only to be supported in all those needs and more by the liberal left (and the soft wishy washy conservatives) for decades. So we see an accelerated (almost a frenzy) of importing of these same cultures into our shores, along with the apparent bad manners and extreme cultural differences. But we all know this is not by chance or mere political incompetence, it's been a controlled and planned (and paid for) exercise to deconstruct our culture, our history, our families, our belonging. Once complete (I read that at this rate in 2060 we could be a minority) there would be an amorphous blob of willing supplicants across the Western world (it's not only in the UK), ready to do the bidding of whoever these parasites are that wish to destroy us. We cannot let this happen....
Two Muslim women came into the doctors this afternoon. The daughter had to speak for her mother who couldn't speak a word of English . She wanted to put in a complaint because the mother failed to see or talk to a doctor this morning. Who knows ? , maybe she thought she was entitled to compensation alongside all the other freebies they get.
Laura - OMG what an insightful observation on our society. Thank you so much for sharing something that has been obvious to me for many years now yet have been reluctant to document for fear of being branded a right wing racist!
This may be helpful to anyone wondering what has happened to the United Kingdom over the past 30 years or more. Nationalism, not just 'our' nationalism. Certainly communist, islamic and antisemitic nationalism are rife today.
I was listening to Sir Trevor Phillips talking about immigration in an interview and he said it's about behaviour. It is, I agree. If a man in a turban gets off the bus and says 'thanks' to the driver (we do that where I live), I see that man as 'one of us'. If he doesn't, I don't. Behaviour encompasses so many things including, I think, dress. Those women in the niqabs were behaving in an alien manner - they are not us. The rude man behind you was behaving in an un-British way - he was not us. And, no we native Brits are not perfect at all but we know for the most part how we should behave even if we do veer from it sometimes. It's all so extraordinary: how has this country become this in such a short space of time? I fear for our future.
I'm old enough to remember "Burqa Bans." That applied to *any* facial coverings, including masks in public. Prohibited. Period. Violations were fined. The Netherlands even banned masks as recently as August, 2019. Just months before nations across Europe, including the Netherlands mandated them.
Mask bans had already been upheld in international human rights courts just a few years before. Courts ruled that lawmakers were right to recognize that we have "the right to interact with someone by looking them in the face and about not disappearing under a piece of clothing." Unobstructed human faces were declared a human right!!
"Judges at the European court of human rights (ECHR) have upheld France's burqa ban, accepting Paris's argument that it encouraged citizens to "live together". The law, introduced in 2010, makes it illegal for anyone to cover their face in a public place...the law was not aimed at the burqa or veil but any covering of the face in a public place... ...The European judges decided...that the preservation of a certain idea of "living together" was the "legitimate aim" of the French authorities. Isabelle Niedlispacher, representing the Belgian government, which introduced a similar ban in 2011 and which was party to the French defence, declared both the burqa and niqab "incompatible" with the rule of law. Aside from questions of security and equality, she added: "It's about social communication, the right to interact with someone by looking them in the face and about not disappearing under a piece of clothing." The French and Belgian laws were aimed at "helping everyone to integrate", Niedlispacher added."
Burqa bans, headscarves and veils: a timeline of legislation in the west
"On August 1, 2019, the “Act Partially Prohibiting Face-Covering Clothing,” also known as the “Burqa Ban,” entered into force in the Netherlands. The Act prohibits the wearing of clothing that completely or partially conceals the face in spaces where people are expected to communicate with each other. Thus, face-covering clothing is banned on public transportation and in educational, governmental, and nursing care institutions, but is still allowed in such public spaces as on train platforms. The ban applies to burqas, niqabs, full-face helmets, balaclavas, and masks, but not to headscarves."
FF - Bans on masks, all across Europe, laws prohibiting any facial covering in public, shopping, transportation, workplaces, anywhere people would gather - Illegal!! The headlines said "burqa bans." the laws said no facial coverings, not even masks in public. Illegal!!
And then came 2020....
Coronavirus: Germany's states make face masks compulsory
"The French prime minister said all pedestrians would have to wear face masks in public areas in the capital from 08:00 on Friday (06:00 GMT).
While individual streets and areas of the capital already have rules on wearing face coverings, this new rule will be far more extensive, covering not only Paris but its inner ring of Seine-Saint-Denis, Hauts-de-Seine and Val-de-Marne.
Paris is already a red zone, along with the southern area of Bouches-du-Rhône, where France's second-largest city Marseille made masks compulsory from Wednesday evening.
A broad expanse of the Mediterranean coast and the Gironde area around Bordeaux are also red zones.
Masks will also become part of normal life for French schoolchildren aged 11 and over. The World Health Organization (WHO) has recommended use of masks in school from the age of 12.
Masks are already required in most enclosed public spaces and will be mandatory in workplaces from next week."
France asks citizens to wear masks again in public transport
"French people should start wearing masks again in crowded areas, especially in public transport, as France has to deal with a new wave of COVID-19 infections fuelled by new variants of the disease, Health Minister Brigitte Bourguignon said on Monday.
"I'm not saying it should be mandatory but I do ask the French people to put the mask on in public transport," she told RTL, adding it was a "civic duty" to do so."
Coronavirus: Netherlands makes face masks mandatory indoors
"Mask wearing has been reintroduced in stores and public places, and the government is advising citizens to work from home for at least half the time.
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced Tuesday that the “corona pass” will be expanded on Nov. 6 to apply to public places including museums, gyms and outdoor venues."
FF - Laws that contradicted each other. What happened to the *human right* to interact with free faces in public that the European Court of Human Rights declared less than a decade ago. Poof! Gone With the flu Wind! How'd that happen?!?! Who knew human rights were so temporary?!?!?
Prohibited ---> Mandated. Just months apart.
Human Rights ---> Dangerous Selfishness. Just months apart.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
I recently had cause to be disgusted with a family member’s boyfriend who openly, without shame, broke wind (which was seriously smelly) several times in front of everyone at my house.
I’m afraid it shows how disrespectful he was. I was brought up NOT to do this but if I couldn’t help it to go outside.
He went on to relate how he produced such mega amounts of poo when he was young! Not a subject for ‘polite’ conversation methinks.
I totally agree with your views. I feel manners amongst our own people are worse but I think it is due to the breakdown of our society and tolerating people of a different culture whose population has grown to a level that is uncomfortable and affecting the daily life of people. Our Communities are changing and not for the better. It is a decline in the quality of life for everyone in the UK.
Hear, hear! I find the spitting in the street, one of the most revolting bits of diversity (and yes, I do know that my fellow natives have been known to indulge) but it's so much more prevalent nowadays and eeewwww!
I have taken to saying, very loudly, 'well THAT's disgusting'. Nobody has thumped me yet but it's probably coming.
😅 Bravo! 👏🏻
In 'Super Starmer' world, these people supposedly integrate, are upstanding citizens and do good for the community!!! When he finally comes out of his dream world, there will not be a Britain left!!
In Cardiff there are schools where you only see mothers in the Burkha waiting at the gate and there are not any white children!! I would be called racist for saying that but it is the truth!!
There are a number of schools here where you cannot see a white child at all. Going into the shopping centre you get groups of women in Burkha's it is intimidating, it is also frightening, if someone really wanted to do something seriously dangerous that is the perfect disguise to hide things under!
Time the Burka was banned!! This would allow integration and if the people are not happy they can move to a country where it is normal attire and then they will be happy as well!
If we really want to keep anything at all of the British way of life things have to change and 'Super Starmer' and his group of idiots need to go!
If you look up how many Mosques there are in this country it is frightening!! Cardiff alone has a ridiculous number!! We are a Christian country!!! Someone remind our government and council planning of that fact! We are not a Muslim country (yet anyway!!).
Same here. I could weep for the state we are in yet liberals welcome this with open arms.
I’m alarmed to read that mothers are collecting their children from school wearing burkas. What if the person the child goes off with turns out to be someone else? I’m very surprised that schools would allow it.
The problem is they are all wearing them and they cannot confront them even if they wanted to! Remember a lot of the teachers/heads are white and not Muslim so will be accused of racism at best or a lot worse!.
I am just surprised we have not done what France did and ban Burka, Hijab and all of the rest. We have had terrorism (OK not recently) we have no idea who is under these items or if they have bombs or weapons! We have been taken over here and sleepwalked our way into it by trying to be kind!
How do you get integration if you have people going around dressed head to toe in black! They even drive complete with full headdress!! Surely that is against the highway code? We are so full of not offending them or not upsetting them we are a joke. When in Rome do as the Romans do!! If they are not happy with our rules go somewhere that they will be happy!!
You have to see six women altogether dressed head to toe in black and all you can see is the eyes, believe me you feel intimidated!! That is normal here!!
We then have the other side of it all where we are forced to walk in the road as they have the right to the whole pavement and you have to get off of it for them!!
It is the speed that it has all happened in that is frightening
I totally agree with you. My parents emigrated from India in the 1940's. I am thus the first generation born here (in the 1950's). As intelligent immigrants, my parents first thought was to try an integrate. Only English was allowed to be spoken in our house. I went to English C of E schools and the teachers were specifically told that I was to attend all religious classes. I am totally integrated and cannot understand why others would not. I support England at cricket, but visit India and my relatives quite often. The two are not mutually exclusive! I went to live in Sweden for 1 year and immersed myself in their culture. What a waste if I had not! Diversity is destroying England - Integration is what is required.
This describes exactly how I feel. Especially when you said you feel like you’ve been dropped into a third world country but can’t fly home. The feeling of being trapped is reminiscent of the Covid lockdowns.
Multiculturalism dilutes social norms and reduces any sense of 'we'. A home becomes a hotel and as in any hotel different nationalities and cultures ignore each other. Worse, the hotel management has failed to advise guests of any rules. The English invented politeness and were brought up to temper any selfishness with consideration for others. But as other cultures act indifferently to ours so some English are corrupted; they see no purpose to respecting the old rules which so many around them evidently do not. And so the public space degrades.
They should never have abandoned queuing for the bus in an orderly fashion. In a way I suppose that was bowing to the inevitable but the fact that you could remonstrate with somebody who tried to push in was a useful reminder of social norms which might give them pause in other situations. Letting passengers off the train first still seems to be a thing, just about.
The UK is in deep self imposed shit that’s simply incomprehensible from the other side of the pond. I do understand that the exact same view of the US is probably felt by those overseas. What I simply don’t understand is the lack of freedom of speech, the kowtowing to Muslim immigrants and especially the seeming tolerance of the rape of your daughters. What the fuck has happened to the country of Shakespeare and Churchill? When will you show some pride in your long heritage?
You appear to be ignorant of the fact that the prior U.S. administration (also Obama who started all this) ushered into our beautiful country 20 million illegal, uneducated, mostly military aged men from every third world country worldwide. The Muslim/Islamists openly declare they are taking over our country, while breeding like rabbits) and will kill those of us who don’t convert to Islam. The uncivilized low IQ useless are polluting and littering while living in hotels and collecting our money and drivers licenses … killing citizens w/ their incompetence in everything they attempt. The rest are gang members, cartel members, traffickers, murderers, rapists and thieves. Then we have the Blue States and cities that have welcomed in the homeless who have destroyed everything in their path living like scum of the early centuries.They are sub-human addicts, criminals, and mentally ill. The U.S. is as close to Third World as the other Western countries. Trump is attempting to turn back the tide, but it would take years to undo what has been deliberately perpetrated upon this once great country that NEVER needed multi-culturalism. What a joke! The first immigrants brought talents, skills, motivation, incentive with them to advance our country. These mooches, parasitic, literal morons are here to pillage, murder, and ruin.
And now for something completely different.
Humour is to be gleaned from even the worst of circumstances, you know the sort of thing:
Medical orderly to squady: "Sorry mate, you've lost your leg".
Squady to orderly: "No I ain't it's behind that rock over there".
Just not funny, I know and probly not true (wrong rock).
How about this then for a yarn of tolerance and understanding; it's absolutely true. I dun it and I am ashamed, Soo soo ashamed:
Shopping centre car park. Coke machine.
Five or six women (I assumed) all wearing burqas.
They had all bought cans of Coke.
One or two had half raised their face covering to sup the Western Capitalist Juice.
I was spotted, face coverings speedily back in place.
We stared at each other for a while, at least I think they were looking at me, couldn't tell.
It was during this odd hiatus that the inner little sod took over and I planned a cunning ploy
I walked off, feigning indifference thus putting everybody at their ease.
After twenty or thirty yards or so, giving all of the masked ones time to slake their thirst, I spun round to see the state of play.
Coughs and splutters all round at the hasty withdrawal of Coke tins from various visages followed by panicky replacement of face covers.
I walked away suitably amused but then, I am extraordinarily childish.
Footnote:
I think they were all females. Can't be sure though, after all that would not be unprecedented would it? Some few years ago a male terrorist wandered away from police custody dressed in a burqa.
By the way, I can only apologise belatedly for belching and bellowing in the theatre only you must understand I am a graduate of the Sir Les Paterson School of Charm and Deportment.
I speak as an immigrant. Apparently, according to my wife, I come from Mars. I got here on the good ship Venus.
Laura, unfortunately this is what we get when the cultures of the world are willingly imported into our country, not by us I may add but by a political elite (aka 'puppeticians') who have been 'hell bent' on making us 'multi-cultural'. I never voted or agreed to this, but it merrily continued to speeches that heralded it a positive for our nation. The acceleration happened during the Blair era (evil, warmongering WEF puppet that he is), whereby all and sundry were welcomed in. So here we are today, cultures that strictly do not like us or our culture, dictating their needs (aways over what we want or indeed have been used to for 100's years), only to be supported in all those needs and more by the liberal left (and the soft wishy washy conservatives) for decades. So we see an accelerated (almost a frenzy) of importing of these same cultures into our shores, along with the apparent bad manners and extreme cultural differences. But we all know this is not by chance or mere political incompetence, it's been a controlled and planned (and paid for) exercise to deconstruct our culture, our history, our families, our belonging. Once complete (I read that at this rate in 2060 we could be a minority) there would be an amorphous blob of willing supplicants across the Western world (it's not only in the UK), ready to do the bidding of whoever these parasites are that wish to destroy us. We cannot let this happen....
Two Muslim women came into the doctors this afternoon. The daughter had to speak for her mother who couldn't speak a word of English . She wanted to put in a complaint because the mother failed to see or talk to a doctor this morning. Who knows ? , maybe she thought she was entitled to compensation alongside all the other freebies they get.
Laura - OMG what an insightful observation on our society. Thank you so much for sharing something that has been obvious to me for many years now yet have been reluctant to document for fear of being branded a right wing racist!
This may be helpful to anyone wondering what has happened to the United Kingdom over the past 30 years or more. Nationalism, not just 'our' nationalism. Certainly communist, islamic and antisemitic nationalism are rife today.
https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/
I was listening to Sir Trevor Phillips talking about immigration in an interview and he said it's about behaviour. It is, I agree. If a man in a turban gets off the bus and says 'thanks' to the driver (we do that where I live), I see that man as 'one of us'. If he doesn't, I don't. Behaviour encompasses so many things including, I think, dress. Those women in the niqabs were behaving in an alien manner - they are not us. The rude man behind you was behaving in an un-British way - he was not us. And, no we native Brits are not perfect at all but we know for the most part how we should behave even if we do veer from it sometimes. It's all so extraordinary: how has this country become this in such a short space of time? I fear for our future.
I would like to know where the man in the theatre was from.
I'm old enough to remember "Burqa Bans." That applied to *any* facial coverings, including masks in public. Prohibited. Period. Violations were fined. The Netherlands even banned masks as recently as August, 2019. Just months before nations across Europe, including the Netherlands mandated them.
Mask bans had already been upheld in international human rights courts just a few years before. Courts ruled that lawmakers were right to recognize that we have "the right to interact with someone by looking them in the face and about not disappearing under a piece of clothing." Unobstructed human faces were declared a human right!!
France's burqa ban upheld by human rights court
The UK Guardian, July 1, 2014
https://archive.fo/Eg2vw
"Judges at the European court of human rights (ECHR) have upheld France's burqa ban, accepting Paris's argument that it encouraged citizens to "live together". The law, introduced in 2010, makes it illegal for anyone to cover their face in a public place...the law was not aimed at the burqa or veil but any covering of the face in a public place... ...The European judges decided...that the preservation of a certain idea of "living together" was the "legitimate aim" of the French authorities. Isabelle Niedlispacher, representing the Belgian government, which introduced a similar ban in 2011 and which was party to the French defence, declared both the burqa and niqab "incompatible" with the rule of law. Aside from questions of security and equality, she added: "It's about social communication, the right to interact with someone by looking them in the face and about not disappearing under a piece of clothing." The French and Belgian laws were aimed at "helping everyone to integrate", Niedlispacher added."
Burqa bans, headscarves and veils: a timeline of legislation in the west
UK Guardian, May 31, 2018
https://archive.fo/WinLY
Netherlands: Burqa Ban Enters into Force
Library of Congress, August 27, 2019
https://www.loc.gov/item/global-legal-monitor/2019-08-27/netherlands-burqa-ban-enters-into-force/
"On August 1, 2019, the “Act Partially Prohibiting Face-Covering Clothing,” also known as the “Burqa Ban,” entered into force in the Netherlands. The Act prohibits the wearing of clothing that completely or partially conceals the face in spaces where people are expected to communicate with each other. Thus, face-covering clothing is banned on public transportation and in educational, governmental, and nursing care institutions, but is still allowed in such public spaces as on train platforms. The ban applies to burqas, niqabs, full-face helmets, balaclavas, and masks, but not to headscarves."
FF - Bans on masks, all across Europe, laws prohibiting any facial covering in public, shopping, transportation, workplaces, anywhere people would gather - Illegal!! The headlines said "burqa bans." the laws said no facial coverings, not even masks in public. Illegal!!
And then came 2020....
Coronavirus: Germany's states make face masks compulsory
BBC News, April 22, 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52382196
"All of Germany's states have announced plans to make face masks compulsory to combat the spread of coronavirus.
Bremen became the final federal region to back the measures, with its senate set to confirm the decision on Friday.
Mask use will be compulsory on public transport throughout Germany, and nearly all states will also make face coverings mandatory when shopping."
France Covid-19: Paris compulsory face-mask rule comes into force
BBC News, August 28, 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53934952
"The French prime minister said all pedestrians would have to wear face masks in public areas in the capital from 08:00 on Friday (06:00 GMT).
While individual streets and areas of the capital already have rules on wearing face coverings, this new rule will be far more extensive, covering not only Paris but its inner ring of Seine-Saint-Denis, Hauts-de-Seine and Val-de-Marne.
Paris is already a red zone, along with the southern area of Bouches-du-Rhône, where France's second-largest city Marseille made masks compulsory from Wednesday evening.
A broad expanse of the Mediterranean coast and the Gironde area around Bordeaux are also red zones.
Masks will also become part of normal life for French schoolchildren aged 11 and over. The World Health Organization (WHO) has recommended use of masks in school from the age of 12.
Masks are already required in most enclosed public spaces and will be mandatory in workplaces from next week."
France asks citizens to wear masks again in public transport
Reuters, June 27, 2022
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-asks-citizens-wear-masks-again-public-transport-2022-06-27/
"French people should start wearing masks again in crowded areas, especially in public transport, as France has to deal with a new wave of COVID-19 infections fuelled by new variants of the disease, Health Minister Brigitte Bourguignon said on Monday.
"I'm not saying it should be mandatory but I do ask the French people to put the mask on in public transport," she told RTL, adding it was a "civic duty" to do so."
Coronavirus: Netherlands makes face masks mandatory indoors
BBC News, December 1, 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55143938
"The Netherlands has made it compulsory to wear a face mask in indoor public spaces in an effort to contain the spread of coronavirus.
The country is one of the last in Europe to introduce such a measure.
The rule will apply to those over the age of 13 in public buildings such as shops, railway stations and hairdressers from Tuesday.
The new face mask rule will remain in place for at least three months, with those who ignore it facing a fine of up to €95 (£85; $113)."
Netherlands reimplements mask mandate as COVID-19 cases surge
The Hill, November 2, 2021
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/public-global-health/579724-netherlands-re-implements-mask-mandate-as-covid-19/
"Mask wearing has been reintroduced in stores and public places, and the government is advising citizens to work from home for at least half the time.
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced Tuesday that the “corona pass” will be expanded on Nov. 6 to apply to public places including museums, gyms and outdoor venues."
FF - Laws that contradicted each other. What happened to the *human right* to interact with free faces in public that the European Court of Human Rights declared less than a decade ago. Poof! Gone With the flu Wind! How'd that happen?!?! Who knew human rights were so temporary?!?!?
Prohibited ---> Mandated. Just months apart.
Human Rights ---> Dangerous Selfishness. Just months apart.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
I recently had cause to be disgusted with a family member’s boyfriend who openly, without shame, broke wind (which was seriously smelly) several times in front of everyone at my house.
I’m afraid it shows how disrespectful he was. I was brought up NOT to do this but if I couldn’t help it to go outside.
He went on to relate how he produced such mega amounts of poo when he was young! Not a subject for ‘polite’ conversation methinks.
Yes, they are now not an item; a lucky escape for us all
God, what an ill bred oaf he is. I do hope he's now an ex-boyfriend. He wouldn't be allowed into my house ever again.